Sanity/Math Check HDHP/HSA vs Copay (I have detailed numbers)

*edit apparently my formatting gets wiped when posting… in my preview I have the text in columns… sorry*

No matter how I run the numbers the HDHP+HSA combo seems to beat the Copay plan out. I just wanted a sanity check in case I was overlooking something major. Whether I look at worst case/max usage scenario vs no usage vs moderate usage the HDHP seems to be the winner. Thoughts?

I find it hard to believe the Copay plan is worse for ALL scenarios…

Currently just me and spouse mostly heathy. But we are trying for baby and have tried IUI and will likely be doing IVF (which is covered by both types of plans). For 2023 I was under the Copay plan and it has covered around 2500$ worth of treatment for 2 rounds of IUI (I joined the company late in the year so I went with the copay plan since I was only paying for a few months of Premiums as opposed to 12 months).

Google Drive link for spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L2Vnlidi9gaNuGKKQ-xnxRvCxlc6VRue/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=106521871182708779755&rtpof=true&sd=true

HDHP / HSA CO PAY

Monthly Premium 280 720

Employer Contribution 187 0

Deduct Individual 3000 200

Deduct Family 6000 600

OOP Max Individual 5000 3000

OOP Max Family 10000 6000

Annual Premium Cost -3360 -8640

Employer HSA Contrib 2250

Worse Case Scenario (assuming I stay in network)

HDHP Copay

OOP Max family cost -10000 -6000

WCS + Annual Premium -13360 -14640

0 Usage scenario HDHP CoPay

OOP Costs 0 0

Ann. Premium + Employer Cont. -1110 -8640

Middle Ground Usage HDHP CoPay

Specialist 300 x6 1800 150

labwork 100 x2 200 50

Imagery 350 x2 700 200

See also  Value-based payment flaws

Urgent Care 300 x1 300 75

Pharmacy 300 300 50

Chiro x12 100 1200 300Numbers based of previous years approx costs

OOP / Copay -4500 -825

OOP/Copay + annual premiumminus employer contribution -5610 -9465

I didn't factor in potential tax savings from HSA contributions since it would skew more toward the HSA plan anyways… so it would add alot of numbers without changing the overall picture too much. And yes the co pay plans allow for FSA accounts so it kinda cancels out the HSA tax break vs FSA take break somewhat… But the impact doesnt change the big picture I dont think.

Thank you in advance. 🙂

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